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"No, we're not going to run out of oil any time in my lifetime or yours."-- Exxon Mobil CEO Rex Tillerson to Matt Lauer on The Today Show, 5/3/06, when asked "Are we going to run out of oil someday?"(Tillerson is 53 and Lauer is 49.)
If Bush relaxes the EPA standards enough (for our benefit) our kids may not even have to worry about living to see that day.So, there you go you old worry wart.We'll all be dead.What's the problem?Besides, I think the Rapture will even come before that, so we're covered two ways.
I honestly believe this Administration thinks the Rapture is nigh. They don't act like folks who think there's a future ahead of us. They act like contestants on Supermarket Sweep.
Well, that would definitely explain their deficit financing. But if the administration believes that the end of the world is on its way, wouldn't the president be more aggressive in promoting his social agenda.
Precisely the opposite. That's your tipoff. The fact that this administration does not push its social agenda means that they could care less whether we live or die (unless our name happens to be Schiavo)A handful of them are busy fulfilling the prophecies, and the rest of them are quietly snickering, using the opportunity to fill their wallets, pockets, and the trunks of their cars with everything they can get their hands on.
Michael,If the "end is nigh", why would they bother filling their wallets, pockets, etc.?I guess you guys really believe your own class warfare propaganda...
Jesus wept...To repeat: "A handful of them are busy fulfilling the prophecies, and the rest of them are quietly snickering, using the opportunity to fill their wallets, pockets, and the trunks of their cars with everything they can get their hands on."If there's one thing the greedy know how to do, it's cynically exploit any opportunity to get richer. If that means pretending to be as pious as their pals, so be it. Besides, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the rapturists believe they CAN take it with them, like pharaohs.
I would think very few really believe the end is coming in some Biblical way, but the majority of the guys "filling their pockets" are just taking advantage of that belief. (Hence the snickering, Right Mike?)But...I grew up during the cold war and I remember a news story about my generation vs. the one that came before.The story mentioned how kids used to say "When I grow up"Then, in my generation, they said "If I grow up"So, I think there is an underlying attitude of "Do it now, we may be dead tomorrow" that goes beyond Republican's and Democrats, or Biblical prophesy.Since the rich are generally more optimistic (and have good reason to be) they will plan for the future and the rest of the masses may just go along with it because, underneath it all, they're not so sure about the future. And a little bit of something now, is something they can put their hands on.
Norm, I believe you got it right.Mike, "They could care less whether we live or die"? This sounds like something from Kanye West. Do you really believe this Administration is THAT evil? Are you as cynical as that? "If there's one thing the greedy know how to do, it's cynically exploit any opportunity to get richer." ...are you describing Michael Moore?Such cynicism is really sad.
In my final nip at this troll bait, I will simply say that it is no more cynical for me to say that George Bush and Dick Cheney don't care if I live or die than for you to say the same about Michael Moore.Zacharias Moussaoui and Star Jones don't care if I live or die. Tom Delay and Jack Abramoff don't care if I live or die. For them to do the things they do requires a certain level of (to put it generously) "self-esteem" that normal people don't possess.Far from making me cynical, it makes me idealistic. I am able to recognize that the kind of person who occupies the White House now is NOT the norm. I haven't given up. I fight because I still think we can save the government. Republicans just think of government as a Thanksgiving turkey whose bones they can pick at... I see it as a renewable feast that has to sustain future generations.A cynic is the kind of person who chews his cigar butt, rolls up his NY Post, turns up Fox News, and says, "Ah, they're all crooks." That isn't me. There are too many people in government I genuinely admire.I believe that there is a vast pool of people in business and public service with honor and integrity, people whose thought processes are governed by nuance and logic. I think they have important work to do, but they're being prevented from doing their jobs by a cabal of men and women who are interested only in lining the pockets of themselves and their corrupt partners. That is the message in every word of this blog.It's no accident that this blog is about technology, media and politics. Those are all about ingenuity... the only thing that will save us. When telcos conspire to squash net neutrality, or oil companies conspire to suppress alternative energy research, that is anti-ingenuity. It's anti-American.People are hungry. Children aren't learning. The sick aren't being treated. Our resources are depleting. We don't have time for telco supports, or estate tax debates.I suspect you've been deliberately missing the point. I'm not going to rise to your trolling anymore, and I would suggest others not do it any more, either.I'm not cynical, I'm tired. Tired of sparring with this pretend person you've made up. It was fun for a while to parry with the kind of knee-jerk Republican Stephen Colbert parodies, but yegads, if you're not kidding, then seriously, take this somewhere where it will be received more warmly.I just heard that soldiers who return from Iraq with limbs missing are being dunned for the supplies they signed out but failed to return. "Sorry, but when you lost your leg, you were supposed to scoop up your canteen and backpack and rifle." In some cases, the bills come to $12,000 or more, and soldiers are losing their homes.Only a cynic could devise or accept such a system. Only an idealist could believe it's wrong.When I posted that AT&T was gouging our servicemen for long distance calls, where was your outrage? When I posted about Halliburton failing to disinfect our soldiers' drinking water, and then covering up when they fell ill, why weren't you upset? Where is the 9 billion dollars missing from the provisional fund? Where is the oil that was going to pay for the war? Three years ago this week the President stood in front of a banner that said "Mission Accomplished."A cynic accepts all that as a cost of doing business in today's world. An idealist rails against it, day after day.
I really will let this go, but I just wanted to clarify one of my statements. (I don't need a response.)When I said the rich plan for the future, I wasn't implying those plans were necessarily good for us.
michael:what has this administration done to make you so cynical? please keep trusting them and stop questioning their motives. its unpatriotic. also, please concentrate on immigration right now, as the mid-term elections are approaching and we need to think about something that is (so far) uncatastrophic. thx!
Q: "When I posted that AT&T was gouging our servicemen for long distance calls, where was your outrage?" A: "At 6:11 PM, Paul Israelson said... Yeah, that's pretty low, even for Ma Bell.Soldiers overseas should have free telephone service. Taxpayers won't object to footing that bill."
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